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Tako wrote:I have the suspicion that many, many, many humans already know about the monster school, but they pretend not to know so they can keep the peace and live their lives.

It's humans who are truly keeping the Masquerade, not, monsters.
If that was the case, there'd be no need for them to poke around Charybdis trying to find evidence and Tiffany wouldn't have been acting on rumors, since she should have already had confirmation about the school if it was public knowledge that monsters existed.

Similarly, it's been implied that the general public doesn't know about the Artemis students either, or Callista wouldn't have been worried about her neighbors seeing Cerise standing on Tobi outside her window. Nor would it have been necessary for Cerise to take the precaution of showing up in Callista's backyard to ensure that didn't happen.

So far, there's only been a select few, like Tiff and her family, Professor Twiggit, and Dakota, that actually know monsters exist. Others might suspect that there are monsters (like that photographer Layla caught).

Aside from the invasion of Montreal (which remains to be seen if Dakota, or Anastasia, ever bothered to cover up afterward), there hasn't been any indication that the existence of cryptids is common knowledge. All they have are rumors.

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Zorlond wrote:This must be a failsafe for the failsafe.

Blair is charged with keeping Nina under control. In the event that he can't, he has standing orders to make very sure she doesn't lose control.

And now, in the event that he fails and is torn apart by a blood-mad Nina... He blows up, hopefully taking Nina with him?
I rather doubt that, what sort of failsafe would hinge on Nina setting it off and waiting around for it to blow? Also... Nina's a vampire, will this blast even slow her down? The traditional methods of vampire murdering would involve taking a toothpick to her heart, a cymbal to her neck, a match to her clothes or piping Accursed DayStarlight into the building.

I suspect Nina is using Blair as a weapon. Once everyone's down, she can feed and enthrall to her hearts content. And if she pulls that off? She may be able to hypnotise Brooke and the puppy into thinking they forced chocolate down her throat and have them convince Blair once his head's back on... if that'll do him any good.

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Gotoh wrote:
Tako wrote:I have the suspicion that many, many, many humans already know about the monster school, but they pretend not to know so they can keep the peace and live their lives.

It's humans who are truly keeping the Masquerade, not, monsters.
If that was the case, there'd be no need for them to poke around Charybdis trying to find evidence and...
I'm not saying that everybody know, just that many people knows. Outsiders like the guy with the camera probably listen some rumour now and then and try to find the truth.

As a matter of fact, knowing that there are rumours about the monster school floating around, that people constantly suffer from fainting, memory holes, anemia and misterious punctures in their necks, and that there are many kids with funny body parts (and all of them wear the same uniform), it's almost impossible that humans haven't noticed it.
Gotoh wrote: Tiffany wouldn't have been acting on rumors, since she should have already had confirmation about the school if it was public knowledge that monsters existed.

Similarly, it's been implied that the general public doesn't know about the Artemis students either, or Callista wouldn't have been worried about her neighbors seeing Cerise standing on Tobi outside her window. Nor would it have been necessary for Cerise to take the precaution of showing up in Callista's backyard to ensure that didn't happen.
As I said, the students from Apollo and Artemis are unable to notice the cryptids in front of their noses for comedic reasons. Callista and Tiff spend their days studing books about monstsers, training to detect and hunt them, but they go out to the street and don't notice all those people with slitted pupils, funny ears, pointed fangs, antennae, horns...etc.

Cerise, just like the rest of the cryptid students, think they are going unnoticed, also for comedic reasons.
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'J' wrote:"OK, HERE'S THE PLAN! I'LL TRANSFORM INTO A GIANT SNAKE-MONSTER IN FRONT OF ALL THESE HUMANS, AND YOU SHOVE SOME CHOCOLATE DOWN THE RAMPAGING VAMPIRE'S BLOOD DRIPPING MAW!"

"WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE HUMAN BYSTANDERS WATCHING US RIGHT NOW, AS WE SPEAK VERY LOUDLY IN FRONT OF THEM?!"

"WE'LL MAKE UP A FLIMSY EXCUSE ABOUT PROMOTING A MONSTER MOVIE, SO THAT THEY WILL NOT REALIZE THAT WE ARE BOTH ACTUAL MONSTERS!"

"GREAT IDEA SNAKE-GIRL, LETS MAKE SURE ALL THESE HUMANS DON'T FIGURE OUT THAT WE WILL BE LYING TO THEM AS PART OF A CUNNING AND SUBTLE PLAN!"

"OK WEREWOLF-BOY!"

"AND REMEMBER, DON'T TALK ABOUT THE PLAN IN FRONT OF THE H-U-M-A-N-S!
+1.

Although it seems that they're being a little more subtle than that, especially in comparison to manslaughter and exploding.
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Tako wrote:I'm not saying that everybody knows, just that many people knows. Outsiders like the guy with the camera probably listen some rumour now and then and try to find the truth.

As a matter of fact, knowing that there are rumours about the monster school floating around, that people constantly suffer from fainting, memory holes, anemia and misterious punctures in their necks, and that there are many kids with funny body parts (and all of them wear the same uniform), it's almost impossible that humans haven't noticed it.
It doesn't seem like it, since we've repeatedly seen that they've taken measues to ensure the victims don't remember anything afterward. So who would they tell? And how often does anyone exaine someone else's neck closely enough to notice a pair of pin-pricks? :-\
Tako wrote:As I said, the students from Apollo and Artemis are unable to notice the cryptids in front of their noses for comedic reasons. Callista and Tiff spend their days studing books about monstsers, training to detect and hunt them, but they go out to the street and don't notice all those people with slitted pupils, funny ears, pointed fangs, antennae, horns...etc.
That's assuming they've ever seen anyone like that. Cerise even speculated that the students at Artemis had probably never seen a real monster before; including the student elite. Which we knew was wrong, since Tiffany and Faith are among the student elite and both of them had seen Layla, by that time, and knew she was a vampire.

But there's also the fact they'd been attending school with three witches for several months, and there was nothing out of the ordinary about them (i.e. no horns, wings, etc.). Just as we've seen Layla and her friends go out shopping and dine at public restaurants and no one's noticed anything unusual about them either. Certainly not anything that would suggest they were monsters. :-??

Which is why Faith didn't realize Layla was a vampire until she bit her. and Ash didn't realize Brooke was a cryptid until she snaked out on him. So if even monster hunters in training fail to notice anything unusual about them, how would the general public realize what they were seeing? Or even know they exist?

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Gotoh wrote:
Tako wrote:I'm not saying that everybody knows, just that many people knows. Outsiders like the guy with the camera probably listen some rumour now and then and try to find the truth.

As a matter of fact, knowing that there are rumours about the monster school floating around, that people constantly suffer from fainting, memory holes, anemia and misterious punctures in their necks, and that there are many kids with funny body parts (and all of them wear the same uniform), it's almost impossible that humans haven't noticed it.
It doesn't seem like it, since we've repeatedly seen that they've taken measues to ensure the victims don't remember anything afterward. So who would they tell? And how often does anyone exaine someone else's neck closely enough to notice a pair of pin-pricks? :-\
Somebody is bound to notice that all those people who faint and suffer anemia and memory loss have holes in their necks. There are three blood drinking vampires among the Delacroix's (not counting Dio, who is a recent addition), and they eat every day at least once. That means 1095 attacks per year, probably twice as much, if they feed twice per night. Statiscally speaking, people is bound to notice.

Heck, Layla has been repeatedly attacking the same big-busted girl recently...she is bound to go to the doctor and have a physical examination.
Gotoh wrote:That's assuming they've ever seen anyone like that. Cerise even speculated that the students at Artemis had probably never seen a real monster before; including the student elite. Which we knew was wrong, since Tiffany and Faith are among the student elite and both of them had seen Layla, by that time, and knew she was a vampire.
But they do meet monsters. Layla buys clothes at the same shops were Tiff works, and hunts at the same park were Faith takes her dogs for walks. Brooke found Dio and Ash kissing at that same park. Layla, Kade, Dio and Tiff went to dinner at Ash's family's restaurant. It took Tiff only a few minutes to walk from Charybdis HS to her house. Mel went walking from her house to Artemis Academy her first day of school.

It's impossible that they don't meet monsters all the time.
Gotoh wrote:But there's also the fact they'd been attending school with three witches for several months, and there was nothing out of the ordinary about them (i.e. no horns, wings, etc.).
I'm not speaking about the three witches; those are undetectable unless they choose not to be so. I'm speaking about how neither the students from Artemis Academy, nor those from Apollo have noticed that they live in a town with hundreds of monster residents. The only explanation for they not noticing it, despite explicitly studing what to watch for, is comedic ineptitude...like Tiff walking on a Hekatean shrine and believing that is a school project, or neither Ash nor Faith noticing Brooke's and Layla's slitted pupils, despite having studied monster biology.
Gotoh wrote:Just as we've seen Layla and her friends go out shopping and dine at public restaurants and no one's noticed anything unusual about them either. Certainly not anything that would suggest they were monsters. :-??

Which is why Faith didn't realize Layla was a vampire until she bit her. and Ash didn't realize Brooke was a cryptid until she snaked out on him. So if even monster hunters in training fail to notice anything unusual about them, how would the general public realize what they were seeing? Or even know they exist?
Answer: Comedic ineptitude.

Even if normal people didn't notice Layla's and Dio's fangs and slitted pupils, people like Ash and Faith should notice it. Ash didn't notice that the guy he was dating (and smooching) would never go out before the sunset, and had slitted pupils and pointed fangs. Comedic incompetence.

But while rule of funny dictates that the "monster hunters" won't notice the monsters in front of their noses, it would be even funnier if many muggles were aware of the monsters but pretended not to be so.
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Quick get the head back on reenforce his joints with a 60 lb of quickrete and dump into the Mariana trench.

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I suspect Nina is using Blair as a weapon. Once everyone's down, she can feed and enthrall to her hearts content. And if she pulls that off? She may be able to hypnotise Brooke and the puppy into thinking they forced chocolate down her throat and have them convince Blair once his head's back on... if that'll do him any good.
As I said before, it is unlikely that Vamping-out Nina knows things normal Nina doesn't. And I'm not sure Nina knew what would happen if Blair would lose his head, or even that removing his head was possible and dangerous. I guess she acts like "something/someone gets between me and food ? Remove the impudent, preferably violently and definitely".

...And to think she looked so happy moments ago. :ymsigh:

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Tako wrote:As a matter of fact, knowing that there are rumours about the monster school floating around, that people constantly suffer from fainting, memory holes, anemia and misterious punctures in their necks.
Most, if not all, of which can easily be attributed to perfectly mundane medical conditions. People aren't gonna automatically assume there must be a vampire around just 'cuz some guy suffers from frequent bouts of anemia. They're more likely to chalk it up to health problems instead.

Even if they noticed the bite marks, how many people are gonna think to themselves: "must be a vampire"? Not many, I can tell you that. People have been brought up thinking stuff like witches and vampires are all make-believe and superstition. If anyone tried to feed 'em a story about any of that, they'd either think they were joking, or tell them to get serious.
Tako wrote:and that there are many kids with funny body parts (and all of them wear the same uniform), it's almost impossible that humans haven't noticed it.
Again, if the public had seen anyone like that they wouldn't have to snoop around the school trying to find evidence, 'cuz they'd already have it.
Tako wrote:Heck, Layla has been repeatedly attacking the same big-busted girl recently...she is bound to go to the doctor and have a physical examination.
And no doctor worth his salt is gonna diagnose his patient as being the victim of a vampire attack. Do you hear how that sounds? They're more likely to ask if they'd been bitten by some sort of animal.
Tako wrote:It's impossible that they don't meet monsters all the time.
They might have, but if they've never seen anything unusual that'd tip them off that they were looking at one, how would they know? They've spent the last few months attending classes with three of them and never suspected anything out of the ordinary about them.

If they saw Brooke, how would they know she was a cryptid when she usually looks like this? Or if it was someone like Layla, or Laura, both of whom look entirely human. So long as Laura doesn't flare up, and Layla keeps her fangs in check, who's gonna know either one of 'em's a monster? :-??
Tako wrote:I'm not speaking about the three witches; those are undetectable unless they choose not to be so. I'm speaking about neither the students from Artemis Academy, nor those from Apollo have noticed that they live in a town with hundreds of monster resident. The only explanation for they not noticing it, despite explicitly studing what to watch for, is comedic ineptitude...like Tiff walking on a Hekatean shrine and believing that is a school project, or neither Ash nor Faith noticing Brooke's and Layla's slitted pupils, despite having studied monster biology.
Tiffany's a ditz and she's trusting of anyone not named "Abbot". And the only time Layla's pupils are slitted, is when she vamps out. Otherwise, she looks like this. So Faith can hardly be blamed for not knowing she was escorting a vampire back to her house.
Tako wrote:Answer: Comedic ineptitude.
More like: because realistically, no one's gonna assume someone's a monster just 'cuz there's something a little off about them. Especially if there's a more reasonable explanation for it.

If someone's next door neighbor only went out at night, they're not gonna assume they're a vampire. They're more likely to think he works a night shift. Even there was something unusual about their eyes, or ears, they're more likely to think they're costume pieces, or contacts.

Most people are rational. They're not likely to entertain the idea that there could be monsters, 'cuz it sounds silly. No one's gonna take that sorta thing seriously, unless it was staring them in the face. And even then, they still might not believe it.
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Tako wrote: I'm not saying that everybody know, just that many people knows. Outsiders like the guy with the camera probably listen some rumour now and then and try to find the truth.
Of course, now that we know about AAs, the question is - how nuch of an outsider this guy was? It's not like Layla interrogated him, only mind-wiped.
Tako wrote: As a matter of fact, knowing that there are rumours [...] that people constantly suffer from fainting, memory holes, anemia and misterious punctures in their necks
We don't know that. And it's not implied, since people sometimes faint or get a cat-nap anyway, bite-marks evidently regenerate fast (of course, both Tiffany and Brooke may heal faster than a baseline human, but there was no evidence to the contrary at all) and the rest is avoidable with basic caution.
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Tako wrote:So, which are your bets? Powerful Ancient Ghost? Angel? Djinn? Elemental? Demonic Familiar? Shikigami?
er. . . spirt of the WereWolf King? Abraham Van Helsing? Merlin? God?

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Oh crap. Yrael, the Eighth Bright Shiner is free...

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'J' wrote:"OK, HERE'S THE PLAN! I'LL TRANSFORM INTO A GIANT SNAKE-MONSTER IN FRONT OF ALL THESE HUMANS, AND YOU SHOVE SOME CHOCOLATE DOWN THE RAMPAGING VAMPIRE'S BLOOD DRIPPING MAW!"

"WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE HUMAN BYSTANDERS WATCHING US RIGHT NOW, AS WE SPEAK VERY LOUDLY IN FRONT OF THEM?!"

"WE'LL MAKE UP A FLIMSY EXCUSE ABOUT PROMOTING A MONSTER MOVIE, SO THAT THEY WILL NOT REALIZE THAT WE ARE BOTH ACTUAL MONSTERS!"

"GREAT IDEA SNAKE-GIRL, LETS MAKE SURE ALL THESE HUMANS DON'T FIGURE OUT THAT WE WILL BE LYING TO THEM AS PART OF A CUNNING AND SUBTLE PLAN!"

"OK WEREWOLF-BOY!"

"AND REMEMBER, DON'T TALK ABOUT THE PLAN IN FRONT OF THE H-U-M-A-N-S!

Clearly, Brooke forgot the first rule of Monster Club. :p
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Judanas wrote:Oh crap. Yrael, the Eighth Bright Shiner is free...
So that would...place Nina as Orranis then. Wouldn't it.

The fact that this seems to be more likely than unlikely seems to be quite easily summed up.

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Bambikles wrote:
I suspect Nina is using Blair as a weapon. Once everyone's down, she can feed and enthrall to her hearts content. And if she pulls that off? She may be able to hypnotise Brooke and the puppy into thinking they forced chocolate down her throat and have them convince Blair once his head's back on... if that'll do him any good.
As I said before, it is unlikely that Vamping-out Nina knows things normal Nina doesn't. And I'm not sure Nina knew what would happen if Blair would lose his head, or even that removing his head was possible and dangerous. I guess she acts like "something/someone gets between me and food ? Remove the impudent, preferably violently and definitely".

...And to think she looked so happy moments ago. :ymsigh:
Is it? She isn't acting the way Layla acted while she was in bloodlust. She snapped out of it after a drink and some soothing words for one thing. If Nina is, in fact, the reincarnation of Queen Lamia Asra-Pa Quintessa... who knows what memories from her past life have rushed in with the taste of blood? Also, it would be a bad idea to let her play with a bomb without knowing not to set it off, why presume she doesn't already know what happens when you break the dolly?

She was still looking happy last time we saw her face, albeit in a scary maniac kind of way.

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