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Don Alexander wrote:Assuming the "Faith is Awesome" field does exist, it is holding Faith's popularity at an unnaturally high level. It needs to remain engaged, like a computer hooked to a power outlet, to keep her popularity at THIS extreme level (not saying she'd suddenly become unpopular if it left - as mentioned, positive memeory reinforcement makes up for a lot). Furthermore, Faith obviously enjoys her position. And as mik points out, just because you are already amillionaire does not mean you suddenly conclude you don't need any fresh money anymore...
Using the same analogy, if you wave a few thousand dollars at them, they're likely to tell you they're already sitting on top of millions. Sure, they might not turn down the extra cash, but it isn't like they need it. Which is what Cerise is implying, that deep down Faith craves love she feels she wouldn't have otherwise.

If the 'Faith is awesome' field is at the root of her popularity, it's to be expected that once it's cut off that her popularity would take a hit. Pleasant memories wouldn't do much to prevent it from happening, if the victims are made to realize what's been done to them and start asking questions. Similar to how Chloe's mojo was amped while she was wearing the Doompanties. Once they were gone, both she and her status at the school reverted to normal.
Don Alexander wrote:Read the dialog again. "The school" picked up the L9 event, not "the ethernet".
You're right, she did say it was the school. Good catch, but the point stands.
Don Alexander wrote:IF the school - the genius loci - is somehow in cahoots with Faith to boost her popularity, then obviously the school is going to "obfuscate" this from any "status checks" by the teachers. Or it's as mik says, and Faith's popularity is... yellow. ;)
How can it be in cahoots with her if she doesn't know what's going on? :-\

If you came up to me and said, 'Okay, Gotoh, here's all the booze from the bar up the street just like we planned it' my thought would be, 'What're you talking about? What "plan"? I didn't know anything about this'. :-??

The school, like you in the example, would be acting on its own to give Faith what it thought she wanted. Just like you with that armload of booze (I don't drink, btw).

That said, I'd find it hard to believe the faculty wasn't keeping better tabs on Faith, if what you're saying turns out to be the case. Or that the school would go out of its way to fulfil the desires of a single student, while taking measures to keep the faculty as well (as the recipient) in the dark about what it was doing. Yet, somehow, Cerise figured all this out after spending only a few minutes in Faith's subconscious? That makes her story even harder to believe.

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Gotoh, Gotoh... We discussed the booze plan five days ago. You just don't know about it yet because I have not yet traveled back in time to tell you. =))

Okay, I formulated it wrong. Since I'm actually arguing that Faith is not really aware that her popularity is being enhanced by extraneous means, the school is not directly "in cahoots with her", but it still is the one supporting her and her rise in popularity. So the point still stands that the school would not "rat" on Faith (or, maybe more correctly, on itself).

The point with the faculty is a good one, of course. Maybe, just maybe, the explanation is "it's that way because we need it to be that way for the story we have planned." I know that sounds like a cop-out, but I'd say most writers don't try to think everything through to the last iota, ready to respond to any question concerning their world-building with a self-consistent answer. It's pretty much the same thing with the teleportation circle and "Why did they not all immediately make a break for it, it's just 150 feet...".

Concerning point 1, well, we'll see, huh? Cerise claimed she cut Faith off. But if you are alluding to "getting out of range of the WiFi" I still think the effects will wear off only slowly, and not quickly enough for a girl to get home and suddenly think: "Waaaiiit! Why did i love Faith so much at school and not now?" Furthermore, nearly all girls don't really have a reason to question their devotion to Faith that much anyway. After all, I fully acknowledge that Faith is already awesome even without some extra mojo juice. So for most everyone, the Faith Awesomemeter might be 100 on school grounds, then sink to, say, 90 at home - and then they get back to school and quickly recharge to 100. For student council members, it's likely a lot lower, and may also sink faster too, but still not enough to let them get to the point where they hate Faith and strongly oppose her.

Anyway, actually finding out how much truth was in Cerise's statement will not be easy. I think we can rest assured that she was telling the truth when she said she'd use the "school" to amp her own popularity now. And it's entirely likely she'll add some "Faith is a horrible traitor" juice to the mix, next to "Mel is a witch - exterminate!"
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Nina's soulmate is found!
Too long we were puzzled as to who can become Nina's bestest friend the way of Layla and Tiffany! Here's a summary of a good candidate:
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Name: Czekolada. :)
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Hobbies: Guess what? Nope - sharp dresses. Probably more than enough to meet even Maria's standards.

The Groomer
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Still not scary? ;)

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In her enthusiasm, Prudi caught the suspicious doggy. But she may have missed someone:
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- What? It's a perfectly normal cat. He wears only his collar, for one.
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Naked angels!
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This reminds me: we can't see whether Prudi's hair and plumage are plain white, or what? :-?

Also - on the subject of wing-covering clothes... :)
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Is the comic still on break or are there gonna be updates this week?
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Well, there's now been a new Sticky Dilly Buns strip posted.
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Ok, saw in the vol 3 thread the new edition has updated caste pages. So why don't the websites get some too?
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We're trying to get our updates back on track, and get the cast pages done too. We just have lots to do (and too much real life going on.) I'm just happy we finally got caught up with book orders. It's the Holiday Season, so lots of orders. :)

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vampire hunter D wrote:Ok, saw in the vol 3 thread the new edition has updated caste pages.
I wonder if next year's volume will extend the cast list to two pages - the 17 characters featured in Vol 3 take up an entire page (with many still omitted - has anyone counted the total number of regular characters across EC/MC? Of course, since we don't know how long Tia (EC) or Mel's mothers (MC) are going to hand around, it's perhaps a little early to say whether they'll be regulars, but so far, somewhere in the region of 30+?)

As Giz says, they've been rather busy recently, and I imagine some time next year the team will decide what to do about publishing a paper version of DC (EC/MC typically have five chapters each per volume, whlle DC is currently on Chapter 6 - so by the middle of next year, there'll probably be 10 chapters worth - enough for a solo volume); but before then they might be able to spare some time to update the web cast lists of all three titles.

As for when they'll be able to do it, it's probably best to adopt an "expect it when you see it" attitude...

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Update to Czekolada above: now she got one of those skull pins (!) and adopted looks as cutesy-emphasized as Laura after "Trendy Loli" and the "hey, look - exposed neck" pose à la Chloe at the same time. :-= Pretty much confirmed? ;)
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Happy New Years, everybody!! From America! \M/ **==

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Happy new year from alcoholica
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Not a real location.

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If it's not real how can it make me this incohereny?
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Happy may the New Year be for all...
mittfh wrote:
vampire hunter D wrote:Ok, saw in the vol 3 thread the new edition has updated caste pages.
I wonder if next year's volume will extend the cast list to two pages - the 17 characters featured in Vol 3 take up an entire page (with many still omitted - has anyone counted the total number of regular characters across EC/MC? Of course, since we don't know how long Tia (EC) or Mel's mothers (MC) are going to hand around, it's perhaps a little early to say whether they'll be regulars, but so far, somewhere in the region of 30+?)

As Giz says, they've been rather busy recently, and I imagine some time next year the team will decide what to do about publishing a paper version of DC (EC/MC typically have five chapters each per volume, whlle DC is currently on Chapter 6 - so by the middle of next year, there'll probably be 10 chapters worth - enough for a solo volume); but before then they might be able to spare some time to update the web cast lists of all three titles.

As for when they'll be able to do it, it's probably best to adopt an "expect it when you see it" attitude...
Maria Delacroix doesn't have an entry, so I can easily see Melissa's mothers going without as well. Way I see it there's room for expansion in two directions, the 'second page' dealy you spake of, but also... deletion. And well... a quick look at the Darkshade Ditch brings to mind four candidates for removal who could open up room for Tandi the Ninja girl, Tia the demon girl, Neige and Sorbet the minion girls and maybe someone else if the twins share a box.

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So... speaking of Pandora and her scenery-chewing boyfriend, can any results be (eventually) expected? /:)
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