20-02-12 Never felt so close

[Munroe]

Also, on the point of Layla being undead and Chloe being a demon, I don't know if I accept that for the Eerie Cuties universe.

Layla and Nina are born vampires, so that means vampires don't follow the same rules in their world. That means vampires may not be undead at all. They could be demons for all we know. In some stories in our world vampires are demons, not undead.

Undead is really a categorical construction that comes from vampire myths, not the other way around. Is a vampire in Eerie Cuties an undead? Is a succubus a demon? Are those distinctions even relevant in Eerie Cuties? Or are they all just mythological monsters with power-sets defined by the specific kind of monster they are, such as vampire and succubus?

[ama3fan]

[*] Layla is two years older than Chloe, which, at this age, is a vast rift

How do we know how vampire and succubus ages compare to each other, or to that of homo sapiens?

[ama3fan]

I don't think Blair was on that brush very long. Chloe was programmed to remember being hypnotized when she was in the shower, and as soon as she remembered Layla was there and also pointed out that she'd put Blair on the brush. So it seemed like she did it more as a "also, that's not a rope" surprise, and I doubt Chloe was using the brush very long when it occurred.

That is just wishful thinking. The most likely explanation is that Blair had been the brush from the very beginning of the shower. There's nothing in the comic to suggest that it was otherwise.

It's not over yet, though. Chloe's still on her confidence high and her horns are still gigantor (like her boobs), so I'm guessing the panties power takes a while to wear off.

Or it will never wear off. Or it may be a topic for another arc. Both are more likely explanations than delayed power-down. Chloe has always been a succubus, not some girl-next-door although she looked like one and more or less acted like one. A tiger cub is cute, but when it grows up, it will be a dangerous animal. I don't believe we are going to see the old Chloe for quite a while, if ever.

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[Ravenhull]

Of course there is one other interesting possibility. Blair isn't there. This idea is that Layla is still messing with Chloe by making her see an actual back brush as Blair (on a steeek...)

[MrsKytro]

I don't think Blair was on that brush very long. Chloe was programmed to remember being hypnotized when she was in the shower, and as soon as she remembered Layla was there and also pointed out that she'd put Blair on the brush. So it seemed like she did it more as a "also, that's not a rope" surprise, and I doubt Chloe was using the brush very long when it occurred.

That is just wishful thinking. The most likely explanation is that Blair had been the brush from the very beginning of the shower. There's nothing in the comic to suggest that it was otherwise.

I think what was being said is that Chloe was programmed to remember as soon as she was in the shower. Hence, she couldn't have actually used the scrubbing brush for more than the first panel.
Lacontessa's analysis was more or less my feeling on Layla's character, too. Then again, anyone who shows protectiveness of their sibling/family gets many plus points in my book automatically; she'd have to do something pretty darn evil to negate it to me ^^

[Searcher]

Of course there is one other interesting possibility. Blair isn't there. This idea is that Layla is still messing with Chloe by making her see an actual back brush as Blair (on a steeek...)

I think that would be the most twisted thing I have ever heard of ... dammit why didn't I think about that

[Lighthawk]

Hell if you want to really go that route, none of the last few strips really happened. Chloe is still in the kitchen with Layla, and once she comes to, Layla will tell her "That's how this is going to go if you don't give up."

[Pking]

I don't think Blair was on that brush very long. Chloe was programmed to remember being hypnotized when she was in the shower, and as soon as she remembered Layla was there and also pointed out that she'd put Blair on the brush. So it seemed like she did it more as a "also, that's not a rope" surprise, and I doubt Chloe was using the brush very long when it occurred.

Possible. my conclusion came from the wording and probably the manner in which I interpreted things.
While Layla did say Cloe wouldn't remember until she was in the shower remembering isn't the same as thinking it out.

If you remember how any licks it takes to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop you aren't going to recall said memory until you attempt to do so. So Cloe had the memory come back but until she tried to figure things out she didn't actually access said memory she had unlocked. Because of this Layla was nearby to make Cloe actually recall it if no attempt at remembering was made.Cloe remembered though so she merely had to use the main plan of victory taunting that she had setup.

Because of that I said the time spent showering is unknown. I guess it's kind of interesting that vampire suggestions can be implanted while said person is self aware it's not something they would want to do instead of the normal zombie state.

Layla needs to be careful though, The fact that Succubi can actually withhold their blood from a vampire implies that they're powerful enough to defend themselves from even the ones fueled by the will to get more blood well enough for outright blood theft to not be worth risking. If it was possible for vampires to outmatch succubi we'd see a similar level of inter-species resentment akin to the vampires vs werewolves relationship we see from attempts to forcefully get succubi blood in the past.With that in mind it's definitely not a good idea to put Cloe into a fit of rage.

[Gil Hamilton]

Or it will never wear off. Or it may be a topic for another arc. Both are more likely explanations than delayed power-down. Chloe has always been a succubus, not some girl-next-door although she looked like one and more or less acted like one. A tiger cub is cute, but when it grows up, it will be a dangerous animal. I don't believe we are going to see the old Chloe for quite a while, if ever.

I would think that some aspects, like the horns, would be permanent. After all, those are bone and keratin, which doesn't shrink.

Of course, I expect that this will be more of a Star Trek transformation thing, where even if you turn into a giant spider monster or an amphibian that you are completely unchanged at the end of the episode with no meaningful side effects whatsoever. Once Chloe gets the panties out of her system, she'll probably go back to being what she was before.

[Azanah]

@ Gil Hamilton- Oh jeez, I hope so. I must say, I'm not a fan of Evil!Chloe. Shy, naive Chloe is way way way more likeable. At least to me.

[Kradeiz]

If you prefer, there are Jerk Sue and Villain Sue variants. Either can apply to Layla, depending on your view on her extremism. I used "Mary Sue" because it's a more general classification that covers pretty much any character that is allowed to do whatever the writer wants without consequence or failure.... or logic or common sense.

But Layla's character is the same as it was when the comic started, other than her now being a bit more tolerant of her sister's friends. And she doesn't really fit the Jerk or Villain profiles, either. That's the thing: Layla isn't overly good or bad. She is arrogant and intimidating, but she's also a good and protective sister and (from what we've seen with Tiff) a pretty decent friend when she's actually got one, and the fact that she seems secretly insecure about having very few friends only adds another layer to her.

Also, this isn't Penny and Aggie, where the characters are very full and well-rounded because the purpose of the story is quite meaningful. In Eerie Cuties the purpose of the story is humor (and the odd bit of light horror that usually just adds to that humor), so the characters don't have to be terribly deep, just deep enough to keep things interesting. Hence, guys like Blair and Kade.

I repeat, she is not a Mary Sue.

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[Thor]

I would think that some aspects, like the horns, would be permanent. After all, those are bone and keratin, which doesn't shrink.

If bone and keratin don't shrink, explain Brooke.

[The Nick]

Layla needs to be careful though, The fact that Succubi can actually withhold their blood from a vampire implies that they're powerful enough to defend themselves from even the ones fueled by the will to get more blood well enough for outright blood theft to not be worth risking. If it was possible for vampires to outmatch succubi we'd see a similar level of inter-species resentment akin to the vampires vs werewolves relationship we see from attempts to forcefully get succubi blood in the past.With that in mind it's definitely not a good idea to put Cloe into a fit of rage.

I imagine long-term succubi-resentment is hard to actually carry out.

"The succubi ambassadors are here to demand restitution for alleged crimes committed against their persons."
"PREPOSTEROUS! I'll never pay!"
"They all brought knee-pads."
"OPEN NEGOTIATIONS!"

[brasca]

If Blair had a penis the whole scrub brush incident would be borderline rape instigated by Layla if it isn't already.
She just had a creepy old molester have his way with her for idk how many minutes including the scrubbing of her nether regions. Forcing sexual molestation on another person just crosses the line for me from fair revenge to ugh.

I agree this was over the top, but Blair is an interesting entity to theorize. I have to wonder if a sexual predator stuck in the body of a doll was some kind of punishment. He's quite mischievous, but I doubt he's anatomically correct and therefore cannot get any sexual release. It must be agonizing to be stuck in a situation where he can't get any satisfaction, but he still has fun for whatever that's worth. It could be worse. His soul could've been planted in an inanimate object like a girl's bicycle seat. I'm sure he'd enjoy that, but when not in use he's just stuck in the garage all alone.

There's also the matter of what humans and monsters consider violations as Freemage mentioned. Oddly enough he's never said anything hurtful about the people he's harassed so he might actually boost the esteem of some monsters with insecurity issues. Who knows if Kiley Shefford was a monster and a student at Charybdis she might actually like if Blair snatched one of her bras.

[ama3fan]

In any event, it is Layla who crossed a line by using a sexual predator in her act of revenge against Chloe.

You mean, against another sexual predator? Because that's what Chloe is right now. Eating young eager ratboy souls is considered a bad habit where I live, at least.

I think what was being said is that Chloe was programmed to remember as soon as she was in the shower. Hence, she couldn't have actually used the scrubbing brush for more than the first panel.

We don't know how many minutes pass from the brush in 1st panel and when she draws the curtain. It was as likely that she washed thoroughly before 3rd and 4th panel. Why would she storm out of the shower all soapy, just to confont Layla immediately? In addition, in the 1st panel, Chloe is all soapy, there's bubbles in the 3rd, but in the 4th panel she's just wet. So probably Chloe washed and scrubbed for several minutes with the Blair-brush. Boo hoo.

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